2025 A Plan of Eating That Works

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Should be good for a little red light flashing. And [00:00:06] Speaker B: my name is Ken L. I'm from Lowell, Mass. And I represent the North Shore in that area. I'm also here online they get food service. Today we're talking about how to find a food plan that works for you if you go too far. I want to address the element in the room. There's been almost nothing in OA more divisive or cause for discussion. More a mix. Make your own food plan. You recommend that you see a nutrition or a doctor take process of recovery. We get to keep all of that in mind. My story came into program 1989 at 475. Whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted to, I would hear people describing themselves as bingers. And you'll hear others describe themselves as grazers. I was binged. And for that three minutes that I felt full. After that I grazed until I felt empty again when I binged some more. For the record, I was also suicidal. I want to wake up in the morning. And I had chosen as my way to commit suicide and to literally eat myself to death. My body, on the other hand, said, yeah, no, you're not sitting there. 450 pounds. And my blood pressure is 110 over. My resting pulse is 56. They're looking at me. They stop doing it again. And I said, that's who I am. That's where I was when I came in. I had already been into. I was already getting psychiatric help. The reason I went to OA is because as part of my psychiatric team, my counselor was saying, look, you need to try this 12 step thing, this OA thing, you need to try it. And for two weeks I lied out of my hand and he gave me a lisp and he said, go. I went fully expecting to go once, get the information I needed so I could lie to him forevermore. But as part of this treatment, they had sent me to a nutritionist, established a food plan for me, which I was willing to try anyway. That's when I. And for the record, that's when I first ran across the divisiveness of food plans in la. Food plan with this dietitian was a well balanced meal indeed. Three meals a day. But if I wanted, I wouldn't. And I was allowed not to know the issues that might come up because I got to eat bread. I've experienced this. I also experienced having to change my food plan. Once I actually followed the food plan the nutritionist laid out for me. I went from £475 10. Then I got comfortable. And I'm a multiple relapser. I've been back to Three Sands. When I'm up, I'm not following that food plan. I will say I have not eaten sugar, added sugar, even when I was eating. Eating in 36 years. Not my number one addiction, protein junkie. And on the plan today, today is that I weigh a measurement of meat. Discipline. I. I need boundaries I'm putting into my body. Don't have those boundaries. I'm pretty pleased. I am not talking physically, that the importance of this. One of our questions we get to ask is why is a food plan important? Food plan helps keep me in my right mind. How is a food plan different from a diet? Abstinence. See, abstinence is simply defined between me and my spouse. Estimate is a byproduct of following a food plan. It's not the food plan. The thing I say here is me. I do not represent. I heard this last night and I want to thank someone. I do not represent OA as a whole. [00:03:55] Speaker C: I am no spokesman for oa. [00:03:57] Speaker B: I am only telling you my story. It's different from a diet. A diet had a start and a finish. And when I reached my goal, yeah, let's go to a restaurant. So this is a way of life. In the program, you hear the phrase a way of life a lot. Man is a way of life. Even though I've rewritten this about five times and God presents interesting opportunities to go down for breakfast. This morning on the side, the door is locked and we find out that the chef hadn't shown up and they had to call in a replacement chef. So now you've got a bunch of food addicts standing outside a locked door expecting breakfast. Opportunity to learn. Patient. God keeps giving me these opportunities and I get to take advantage of them. So I don't follow a diet. I follow a food plan. I follow a food plan because I need the structure. I understand. I'm a food addict. I'm not hungry. There are days when I'm not working in the yard, I'm doing my stuff. I've eaten breakfast. It's now one o' clock in the afternoon. I'm not hungry. So that first bite, whatever I've weighed and measured on that plate, isn't enough anymore. That's why I need to weigh and measure the defective fuel gate. That challenge with the food plan, the [00:05:14] Speaker C: food plan itself, actually, nothing. [00:05:17] Speaker B: I'll be honest, I didn't have a challenge with my specific food plan I had worked with. And that wasn't my Problem. My problem with my food plan as I touched on this earlier, as of certain foods I was allowed in in my food plant, I was ostracized. People talk about 311s or no sugars, no spices, no coffee, no tea, no. But whatever care professional. My comment on this is there are 100,000 people in LA. There are a hundred thousand paths to recovery and there should be 100,000 food plans. But they don't have to be the same. We'll have our own separate health issues. I'm not going to give a diabetic the same food plan as I would give someone who has consulted that hard about. What resources do we have? I'm going to show you a great resource, really cheap. You don't have one, stop at the literature table on the way out and get one. [00:06:06] Speaker D: A new plan of eating. [00:06:08] Speaker B: This is great. All of the stuff I'm telling you here today outside of my personal story isn't here. [00:06:14] Speaker D: And [00:06:16] Speaker B: this is a combination of two older pamphlets that we have. A lot of work went into it and they've written some great literature and it will help. How do we do this? First of all, I had to do rigorously honest inventories about my behavior around and with food that I can't. What are my trigger foods? What are my red light foods? I had to learn to accept. You may have heard this one in program. [00:06:48] Speaker C: Acceptance is the answer. [00:06:50] Speaker B: I had to learn to accept that there are certain foods I cannot put on my plate. The challenge in this is triggers me may not trigger you. Or you me [00:07:06] Speaker D: may not trigger me. [00:07:09] Speaker B: Oh, willingness, not willing. It ain't gonna happen. They have to be willing. You have an ethos structure. I have, I ran through the first first 60 plus years. Very little, no personal discipline and very reward structure. I think most of the addicts I know, I don't like being told what to do. I've talked what to do. I believe you need to work with a sponsor. You need to be honest and open and trusting with that sponsor. The basic similarities in my food plan from 36 years ago to today still exist. For example, right now I have trouble digesting raw uncooked vegetables. Salads are a serious challenge. I've had to change meals from being nice, portable, put a salad, put a protein and just take it with me and go to where I have to be willing to make other things happen. Back to willingness. What resources do I use? I have to pray. I have to ask God for help. Stepping away. I invite God into Muskram to make what's on that plate enough for me. I need to be spiritually fit. And when we read between those 12 steps, there's one promise. The promise is in the big book about step nine and all wonderful things. But in the 12 step, having had a spiritual awakening, the only thing working the steps promised with me is a spiritual. Okay, I'll be happy. Doesn't say happy, I'm drunk. But it started because we all come in here to lose weight or to get sane around if you're bulimic. You come in here to stabilize your food and get sane, get stable. But we all come in here because of what we think is a food problem. Me, honestly, it wasn't a problem. It was a me problem. Sat in the mirror. I didn't like fearful, angry always. Once I became aware, I described myself as a kind of a river of lava flowing under a crust of alleged serenity explosion. That's what I did. I was angry, tolerant about this incredibly just food with my food is what brought me to a convoy. I wanted to use food to get eating on something else, some other resources. I'm talking about finding a spiritual higher power in me, in my struggle. Part of that is establishing a fellowship of people I trust within the fellowship and community of oa. I don't trust. I do today. Well, we're in reason not to trust people growing up and things that happen. But it was killing me. I feel like I'm off topic really. Not all of those things lead me back. All of those things lead me back to an inability to follow a food plan, to find a food plan that works for us, period. What works for Jason, what works for Bruce, Individuals. I said it before. Each individual has their own specific food plan. I hope as a sponsor it's not my job. You want to report your food to me, that's fine. It's not my job to give you a job to find one. I can help you, offer you my history. I can offer other people's history. But it's not my job. Why is a food plan necessary? Because. Because without a food plan, I can't make peace around my food. If I don't find peace around my food, I won't find peace in my life. If I don't find peace and if I don't have spirituality, why the hell am I here? I want to thank you for listening and talking listening to me today. And I'm going to let baby come up. She's going to blow my sugar. [00:11:11] Speaker C: I bring this so people actually because I thank you. [00:11:15] Speaker D: I don't know who she is anymore. I'm also very loud. Hi. Morning. Thank you for being here. My name is Debbie Grapeville, Overeater. For today, my obesity is in remission. For today, I am living in a borrowed body. I did everything right yesterday, so I get to use this one, not that one. Because I am in the September of my years, and if I decide not to do the right thing, I'm giving this body back. When I came into program, I was bent, I was broken, I was. I would not literally not be here today. I would be dead. And the truth is, 2012, I was diagnosed with cancer. They caught it early. So I'm here. Don't go to the doctor for a checkup when you're 100 pounds overweight because nobody wants to hear, you'd be so much better. What about me? New York City. Born, raised, worked the whole year. I lived on 251st street in Queens. I lived from my house, my apartment. We had garden apartments. We were all baby boomers. I lived here, maybe at the end of the walk was Jean Nidge and her family. Jean Eiden was the first pay and wave. My mother decided I needed pay and waves when I was probably 13. And the comedians say, once a woman knows every weight she was at every stage of her life. I remember being 12 years old, 106 pounds at 5 foot 2. But my mom needed a partner, so we did everything. I went to that program time after time. I went the shots, I went to pills, I did. I did the liquids. My favorite of all of them was a doctor. Pretty much you could eat whatever you wanted to, but you had, you know, the rolling pins that you use for cooking. If you went and you did this on the fat, you would break up all the fat cells. I remember eating pretty much anything I wanted to, but I just kept doing. Needless to say, that did not work. I did hypnotist. I did everything. I dieted for an occasion, I dieted for something. And when it was over £50, at least 50 on and off of the clip. I don't even count anymore. Walked into this program and something changed. I never told people because of diet, I might fail at New York City. Gym teacher. And I was just sitting here, and I realized something. For me, there are rules. You're for, you're out, you drop the ball or you carried it over the line. Gym teacher. Rules for me. And I only speak for me. There are things that I do because I have to do. Okay. We talk about special. I carry this around with me. This is A list of my 16 major surgeries not mentioning the condition. I have Barrett's. Barrett's is indigestion, efflux, gerd. Barrett's is the big brother. Haven't had a citrus fruit in 13 years. Can't. Don't want to be sick. I pay for it. Told you I lost a kidney. Another whole bunch of things I can't have. I'm getting older. I started this program as a gym teacher. I was up at 5:30 in the morning. I was playing all day. I was a single parent. I came home. I'm retired now. I'm 20 years older. That's another whole story. Do this program one day at what they need to do today. Because if you would have told me I am doing this for 20 years, I would have laughed in your face and said, you got to be out of your mind. I'm not doing anything. The diets I went on, there's another one. You could eat as much as you want. Be satisfied. I have always said something. I was born with a broken full button. It was not there. So if you told me I could eat as much protein as I wanted, I ate a 12 pound turkey. You told me till I I'm never satisfied. Those things just didn't do what for me. I have done. When I came into program this is volume two. I write down all the little nuggets, all the little gems that I have heard because I am blonde. Long before my hair was. I went on all these diets. I know everything. And yet as soon as it was over, I was lost. I love acronyms. Love acronyms. Binge. Because I'm not good enough. Ears fighting not good enoughness. When I am nuts, it just means I'm not using the steps. Write these things down. I need them for me. My food plan and part of my abstinence is not intentionally eating off my program. And I looked up. I've always said that not intentionally. I looked up the definition of intentional purposeful. My actions are done with a clear goal and intention in mind. It is deliberate. I am making conscious choices and awareness, not impulsive acts. It's planned and it contrasts with accidental. If something that I plan to eat, falls on the floor, is rotten or I miss. I'm not free and clear to make a wild choice. I make choices within things happened over the years that were unintentional and accidental. Absolutely. Somebody gave me something, I track it. [00:17:21] Speaker B: Oh, this is really good. [00:17:23] Speaker D: It's not baked soda. Not intentional. I weigh and measure because some days 4 inches, 4 ounces is this. And some days 4 ounces is that I ate because it was everybody else's fault. I can remember standing the first three years. My mother, for everything. That's how I solved problems. The compulsive overeating. Does it matter why? It doesn't matter. Physiological. It doesn't matter. The trigger I am. I have to realize that another thing I did over the years was I made. Which I didn't take to do this. I made a list. Things I have learned in programs. Number one is, you know you're a pickle. You can never go back to being the cucumber. People come and go in this program, but you cannot unknow. There's a difference between forgetting. I could forget where I left my keys, but I know I own keys. I forget my glasses, they're on my head. I can forget they're there, but I don't. I know you can't unknow that you're a compulsive overeater. You can't unknow that I need to be here. I can't speak for anybody else that I need to be here. Because I did every diet. I came in January. I'm not really. I didn't come in until January 16th. That took me, that's two weeks and a half to get a New Year's resolution. I lost 35 pounds chopping up crap and going back to my friend sandwich. And then I hit maintenance. Maintenance. I just stopped losing weight. 185 pounds. That's not a healthy body weight. So I did this so badly. Went to a nutritionist. We fought. I literally. How could. He was right. Changed my food plan and I quickly lost another 30 pounds. I made a healthy body weight as decided by God, my body, my nutritionist and my sponsor. I leave myself out. I don't weigh myself. I don't weigh myself at all anymore. [00:19:35] Speaker B: I. [00:19:36] Speaker D: The only scale I get on is the one by the nutritionist. You focus on the weight, you lose the program. Focus on the program, you lose the weight. You are learning how to cope with life without using food or prior planning prevents poor performance. So all just things I learned. I work, I repeat everything I have ever heard in the spirit of anonymity. I never put a name or a hairdo to it, but in my head I know who told me this. Next one. This program is if my life depended upon it. Does I work this 24 7, 300 days a year, nights, weekends and holidays. We are coming up to the four horsemen of the Apocalypse. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Hanukkah and New Year's. If that ain't a chance for six weeks, hell with yourself. And then somebody told me, in the United States, because we have Canadians, Thanksgiving is just another Thursday. 52 Thursdays a year, just another Thursday. On Friday morning, I don't have to wake up with shame. I have to do another four. Shame should have already mastered everything. Shame should that. I decided that that Thursday, that particular Thursday was more important to eat than to maintain my abstinence. My abstinence, my food plan and the eating behaviors behind it. For me, I cannot eat two and a half hours before I go to bed. So for me, there's a cutoff time. Once I hit that time. And you know what I learned? Nobody. There's not one person in this program who has died of malnutrition. From dinner to breakfast. And so when I get a new sponsor, I will say, you will not die. From dinner to breakfast. Dinner at a table. I don't eat, running around. This was this one. Every meal has a beginning, middle and end. That was a novel concept. When I take it out of the refrigerator, I'm not playing with the food and shoving things in my mouth. While I'm cutting, while I'm putting, while I'm tasting, I know what everything tastes. There's nothing that I can't smell. My food. I prepare my food. It sits on the table till everything is ready and I look at it, I order, put in my bottle. My nutritionist. Anyone who knows me knows I eat fish twice a week again because I have so many food issues. Glorify the food so it's a plain piece of baked fish. No matter how it up, it's fish, fish. I knocked it off at the beginning of the week because my reward for eating fish is I got five great dinners. Every meal does not have to be a festival. It does not have to be a carnival on your plate. Life is what happens in between your meals. Good life is what happens when you are abstinent and abstinence. Not eating. Not eating in the middle of the night, having your food planned. I glad to get myself to some of these things. So that makes me. This is the only place people will applaud for you when you tell them you didn't eat it out of the garbage, you didn't eat it off the floor, you didn't eat off somebody else's plate. Didn't eat it frozen, you didn't eat it, you didn't use the expiration date as a suggestion. Get that A plus because you understand Me, you know that I have done all of these things that I have hidden food. I have lied about food. When I was teaching, nobody knew I was overweight because I never ate lunch. I went home and I inhaled lucrit. But you didn't know I was overweight. I wore it. We wear our disease. My mother died of a fork related illness. And there are many fork related illnesses. Call them what they are. Diabetes and dementia have a very high correlation. The last 15 years of my mother's life are miserable. I do not want to. And she lived to be 93. So I have good genes in my life. I have granddaughters. I love them. I want to be them with. I learned a lot for this other grandma passed away last month, much younger than me. She was very sick. She had cancer. There was no son. My daughter in law, the two girls are just. And I find I'm grieving for them. I can't do anything for them. I don't even. Okay, so those are abstinence behaviors. I don't taste. Give me a taste. Just give me. I know what it tastes like. [00:24:35] Speaker C: And if I don't know, I probably [00:24:37] Speaker D: can't eat it because it's gonna make me sick. I don't want to be sick. Food plan is to be like a comfortable pair of shoes on in the morning and you don't take them off till the nighttime. You get up in the morning and then you gotta put them on again. I heard another one. Your food clan brown has to be big enough for you to be comfortable in it. Claustrophobic in a small place. I don't consider myself restricted. My food plan is wonderful. It's me. When I sponsor again, your food plan is your food plan come into program. And I am not a doctor, I am not a nutritionist. I am not a psychologist. But people have said sometimes she ate nothing all day and then two pounds of chicken at night. Maybe she should see a health care provider. Just two pounds at night. There was another woman I know who used to eat packets of artificial sweetener straight up suggested. We can only suggest what we can't say. Need to or you should? Once I should and need then I'm telling you that I'm smarter than you and I know better. Till I walked in here, I didn't have these skills. Oh, a wonderful challenge. I told you gym teaching. I came in 54 when I started. I'm 52 now. I'm tired. And during COVID I didn't need the nutritionist. Following the food plan, I've been maintaining my Weight. Two things happened. I shrunk, put five pounds on and out. All the bells and whistles and alarms went off because five can be 20. I called her up and I went groveling and I said her shrunk and I'm frightened. She goes, of course you do better now. We need to change it. Not only did we change it good fish away. It was only white fish. Now I did it. I look so much better in this body with fish. Bacon, cheeseburger. Do so much better healthy. I run around with my granddaughters like a lunatic. Which I should not do because I'm not old. I'm super grandma. You're old, you're old and you slow. And I said yes. Not only did I change my food plan, I lost ten pounds to the thinnest I have ever been since high school. When I got to this number, I worked. My life was going to turn the corner and be perfect. So I still have problems. I weigh what I supposed to do. I do everything. Why am I still having problems? Because life is what happens. Light is in one hand, my food's in the other. And I never clap. Clap. You never leave the basics. You never have to go back to them. These are all things I heard on my Saturday morning meeting. That I got up every Saturday and went whether I wanted to or not here long enough that when you hear crazy, you know crazy. Something I learned. I listen to those people in good recovery. I have those people who don't because we all have heard the story of the 50 pound ice cream cone. I could have just one 80 pound bagel. New York, we have bagels. The 80 pound bagel. I heard it said this weekend. And I always say this. I need to do this because my life need to do this. Relapse. I'm so happy for people who come back after relapse stops is not mandatory for me. My greatest fear is not dying. My greatest fear is not getting sick. Fear is if I decide off. And for me a day off would start at 12:01 9 is another one. It's a New York one. Binging is like having sex with a gorilla. It's over when the gorilla says it's over now you've had your sex on Sunday morning call. May not have another recovery recovery in me. That's the biggest fear. The complete and full sentence. I'll wrap it up now. Please, anyone. I don't have any but myself and my God. Happy. When I speak, I say thank you. Thank you for teaching me how not to be a gym teacher. My dress with sweatsuits all life. Thank you for teaching. And now I get my nails done. Hello. I act courteous not one bit like no one. I try to but myself. Thank you for teaching me this here this weekend and bring all your experience, strength and nobody has told you today they love you. God loves you and so do I. And all you have to do is do it for this 24 hour period. And with that I have and feel free. Thank you. Feel free to take a frog when you leave because the frog means you're fully relying on God. [00:29:30] Speaker B: And I'm going to give you a hug anyway. [00:29:31] Speaker D: Thank you. [00:29:34] Speaker B: God bless. Thank you. Thank you, Deb. [00:29:37] Speaker C: I will give anyone my number if they want on the way in. [00:29:42] Speaker B: We are recording these sessions so you know this and we are now have time for you folks to enlighten us. If you want to come up and give you a three minute, I love the phrase for you, please come up here to the side. And Jason is off timer. He'll let you know when your 3 minutes is up. If you're concerned about your anonymity, you do not have to use your real name. You can just use a fictitious name. But you by coming up to share you are consenting to be recorded. [00:30:16] Speaker C: Hi, my name is Jaz Linda from Boston. I just want to do a plug for the new plan of eating pamphlet. If you can't afford a nutritionist or you're afraid or whatever sat with one of those plans. My sponsor is a vegan and I am not. And it was delightful that when we started to sponsor mentor sessions that I selected one of the plans from that book and started with it. And over the next few weeks we realized that it wasn't exactly a good fit for me because of my diabetes. And so we went to one of the other plans. It's a great education and it just points out that you sponsor, you obviously don't have to have the same plan. I mean I couldn't live on vegan food. I think I would miss proteins. But it's really fabulous. And because I'm open to hearing what might work for somebody else, she's given me a lot of great recipes that fit into my plan that I wouldn't have thought to try. So just by being open and using the pamphlet, we've really made great progress. And I'm down £70. And more importantly, my daughter will still speak to me now. So with that I pass. [00:31:32] Speaker B: Thank you. Morning everyone. [00:31:37] Speaker E: I am compulsive Eater. My name is Bruce. That was great. So happy to hear your Stories. [00:31:43] Speaker B: And I want a whole list of all of your acronyms. [00:31:46] Speaker E: When I started, in a way, my first bomb, I started like, you know, the 301, which is the buffets and nothing in between. But it helped me learn that meals had a start and meals had an end on the one meal plan where I started when I woke up all day until I went to the third thing he mentioned is that when I'm eating, always to leave something on the plate, be your compulsive bite. And he told me, like, next time you're out at a restaurant, go look at all the other people. Nobody ever finishes their plate like this. [00:32:18] Speaker B: So strange. [00:32:20] Speaker E: And I saw another couple sharing the dessert. [00:32:23] Speaker B: Two spoons. [00:32:25] Speaker D: They're nuts. So. [00:32:27] Speaker E: And I. It helped me understand like, you know, the difference between me being, you know, starvation and absolute safe 1oz piece of grilled chicken on my plate. I still do that today. I will leave a piece of that on my plate whether I'm hungry or not. It doesn't matter because I'm learning that there's something, there's a piece of food. I don't need to have had enough of the other part. Recently, I started working with a specific food sponsor to work I was doing just the eating part without the planning. And the way he described it, he's like, think of a coloring book. You have a. Like a. He made me define my plan of eating. Very, very strict. For example. [00:33:12] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:33:13] Speaker E: If I'm having a protein bar, it can't have more than 8 grams of carbohydrates on it, like additional sugars. So there might be fruit in it or over 8 grams. I put it back and he said that's like the perfect plan of eating is your coloring all inside the lines and align it with outlines. And sometimes I'll go up. But a break of your absence. It's an indication that something is amiss. It's usually something that, you know, I'm restless. My step work try to get back is not to start coloring outside the lines so much that you fall off the page. Will you explain that to me? [00:33:54] Speaker D: Linda? [00:33:54] Speaker C: I'm from Ontario, Canada. I had a hard time choosing a workshop this morning. [00:34:02] Speaker D: You know, it's like, I'll go with [00:34:04] Speaker C: the plan of eating. I might learn something. [00:34:07] Speaker D: Wow. [00:34:09] Speaker C: Thank you God for sending me to the right room. I struggled in the beginning because I heard I'm three years abstinence now, but I've been in oa. It took me a while to catch on and I had to do the work and I Struggled with my food plan because when I began it was all about, you figure out what your red light foods are. And I realized that as I made my list that my list was getting long. I didn't have any specific binge foods. I could binge on anything. [00:34:47] Speaker D: Potatoes, pasta. [00:34:49] Speaker C: I could binge on cookies, I could binge on lettuce, I could binge on everything. So I realized myself that I had to make a change in the way that I was thinking about it. So instead of removing foods, I put parameters around foods. So for instance, I may have an ice cream cone, but I cannot bring a tub of ice cream. I can have a slice of pizza or two if I'm. But I cannot bring up pizza pie at home. So once I did that, then everything seemed to make sense. And I know that everybody has their own plan and their own reasons for choosing the plan, but I kind of got a lot of kickback on that from my sponsor in the beginning saying, no, you've got to take these foods out. [00:35:31] Speaker D: And it just didn't seem to gel. [00:35:35] Speaker C: So once I decided on my own food plan between myself, my higher power, things got into place. My highest weight was 260 pounds. I lost about half of that before I came to oa. But my fear was I need something that's going to help me keep that off. Because in the past never stayed off. It was through my husband and his involvement with another 12 step program that I heard about OA. I wish when I see young people who come into oa, I had to found this program and learned what food, you know, really what food really did to me. And it wasn't the food, it was everything else. Food had nothing. That's when I was able to relax and lost another good chunk of weight to be a little thinner. [00:36:28] Speaker D: Yes. [00:36:29] Speaker C: But thank you so much, both of you. [00:36:32] Speaker D: I gotta talk to you. [00:36:33] Speaker C: You are like, wow, okay. Not that you are okay, but I really. I have to listen to this again on recording because. Because it's like, oh my gosh, I'm writing stuff, it's just going too fast. Right. So thank you. But Food Plan is so very important to make it unique to yourself and something that you can sustain and something that you are going to be able to do for the rest of your life. Whatever short amount I've got left because I'm getting up there to be happy. I want to be peaceful around food. I want to be peaceful around food. I want to be peaceful around people. I want to be peaceful in my life and experience joy. Thanks so much. [00:37:18] Speaker E: Hi, I'm Jason. [00:37:19] Speaker A: I'm a Compulso reader. [00:37:22] Speaker B: Oh, thank you. [00:37:24] Speaker A: No one's timing. So I may be here a long, long time. No, I don't have a lot to say, but I just want to say I really appreciate both of your shares about plan of eating a lot. And you know, I'm. I just started at the beginning of this year and the main thing I wanted to share was, you know, I had a plan of eating right off the bat and I'm. And it's a great plan of eating and I'm super happy with it. I found myself sort of renegotiating over and over and over again over time. And you know, I've been tracking my abstinence, blah, blah, blah. I realized, I guess just at the beginning of this month after I just weigh myself once a month and I'm really not actually in as far as a weight loss per se. I mean, I definitely here for the sanity. And you know, what I wanted to share was I got to the beginning of this month and I was really not making a lot of progress. And I was like, my food plan, why am I renegotiating with it all the time and am I committed to my food plan or not? Because I wrote it down and it's a good one. So am I committed to it or not? And if I'm not, I should rethink it. And if I am, then I should just eat it because it's good. And though for whatever reason, higher power sort of helped me realize like it's a good food plan, just stick to it. That is abstinence for me. And I don't know, that sort of helped me flip a switch. And so it's been, you know, that commitment has helped since I realized that. And I don't see that really changing. It's sort of like, okay, it's one [00:38:54] Speaker E: less [00:38:56] Speaker A: gymnastics I have to do to renegotiate with my food plan all the time. So there it is and it's good. [00:39:01] Speaker B: Let's just roll with it. [00:39:02] Speaker E: Okay, [00:39:05] Speaker B: Join us. [00:39:07] Speaker C: I'm Deborah. I'm a compulsory. Can you hear me? This has been a very helpful session. When I was eating, really eating, isolating clinically, the more they came absent, the further around, the more I came out into the world trusting. And I started going, I would like some guidance on health. More of a question than a share. [00:39:35] Speaker B: My sponsor and I have come to an agreement that if I eat out in a restaurant, it's a two meal day and that my portions, you almost never have to worry about getting too many vegetables. I mean that's just. They're not going to do it. But my portions are, you know, basically a half portion of whatever protein they put on that plate is a half portion. And because I'm not sure how they cook it, they cook it more fat, butter or whatever. There's going to be a difference. I can't make reward my deal. [00:40:05] Speaker D: In this day and age, every restaurant has their menu online. I look up, I know where I'm going. I look up the menu, I go ahead and I plan ahead. I order salad, I order this and I tell people thank you. I have a number of health issues, which I do. It's not a lie. But there are certain foods I don't eat because I break out, in fact. And I tell them I'm really high maintenance but I'm very pleasant. [00:40:31] Speaker B: I'm a good tipper. [00:40:34] Speaker D: I go on cruises, I go all over the world. When I'm home, I may weigh and measure. When I'm out, I can at this point eyeball it and I ask for what I need. Thank you. [00:40:46] Speaker B: I get to make one drip because my sponsor and I got different body types. He's like big, big hands and I got little puffs. One of the rules of thumb used to be that 4 ounces of a protein was a half inch thick. I look at him and I want your hands. Your hands are going to be my measurement. I want to thank everyone for being here today. I want everyone for being here this weekend. I want to remind all of you 3 the only requirement for a membership is a desire to stop eating compulsive. It doesn't get any cleaner. It doesn't get any plainer. The requirement for you to be is here to stop eating compulsively. Stop eating compulsively. One of us. Congratulations. A bad place to be I want to read in this wonderful pamphlet the gift of following a plan of eating is on page 13 in the emotional and physical recovery is the result of living The Ovrages Anonymous 12 step program on a daily meeting Our individual guide to nourishing foods in appropriate food that helps us begin the process of recovery from compulsive eating. Amplitude encouraged respect for individual needs and differences by allowing us to determine what is right only sound for ourselves. Remember that the 12 step program overeat is anonymous and not any eating is the key to long term recovery. Living and practicing a new way of eating is the beginning of a physical, emotional and spiritual journey for us. If we are using oate only as a diet program we eventually will go back into our disease to maintain our plan of eating for any length of time must embrace the whole visions and all the tools to get healthy are here to recover by getting the food out of the way we can do the rest work letter dirty word I don't have an acronym takes work I will end with this point here but first I want to thank our room monitor and our timer for their work because I know being a timer stinks I had another word but I'm trying to clean up my language why don't we close them as serenity of prayer that we virgin please suffering both in and hope of these rooms that's the serenity the things we cannot cherish to change the things we can and the wisdom to know the difference [00:43:08] Speaker C: keep coming [00:43:09] Speaker B: back you want to shut this off? No more recordings until the big recover with courage okay we have to do stuff again.